[ruexperienced]

Apple likely to introduce new iPod with large touch screen.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b ... 373519.ece

Thought that was going to happen sooner rather than later this year. Other than more storage space, what's the point of buying a present style iPod now when the phone has a much better screen.

A much larger storage ability ?

I mean the iPhone is great and all that but 8gb just ain't big enough for my entire collection.

But a 120gb widescreen iPod ?

That'll work.



PS Saw the new iMacs up close and personal as my friend just bought one.

Wait till you see the freaking keyboard. Best one I've ever typed on.

Kind of the feel of a soft key laptop keyboard but with desktop keyboard spacing.



Very impressed.

[mr dragon]

A much larger storage ability ?

I mean the iPhone is great and all that but 8gb just ain't big enough for my entire collection.

Sorry, bad English on my part. What I mean is- what's the point of buying an iPod right now when it's clear they will improve the screen to make it more like an iPhone- other than for the larger storage space on a present iPod.

PS Saw the new iMacs up close and personal as my friend just bought one.

Wait till you see the freaking keyboard. Best one I've ever typed on.

I think

Kind of the feel of a soft key laptop keyboard but with desktop keyboard spacing.



Very impressed.

I've only seen pics so far- like in the thread I put up a while back. I'm interested by the fact that the new wireless keyboard is smaller and doesn't have the extra numerical keys on the side, while the new wired one has all the functions of a regular keyboard. It's an interesting marketing stratergy.

Though I have to say, while I like the style of Apple's keyboards, and the functinonality- particularly the shorcuts, if you're doing a lot of word processing and typing they haven't been quite as comfortable as a regular PC keyboard. I'd like to try one of these new versions out! I need a new keyboard anyway- mine's had two and a half years worth of Dragon abuse, including one or two liquid spillages + some candle wax (don't ask!) and the occasional cigarette ash on (and in) it.

[mr dragon]

I watched some of Steve Jobs new iMac press presentation today. I didn't watch it all but I thought the iPhoto changes are extremely clever. I can see where these guys are now going. They're making the future, today, of how computers will be like in the next five years for both average consumers and professionals. Very very clever indeed. They are well ahead of the game. They're applying the same creative user intelligence they applied to the iPhone to their computer software.

Very smart.

[JuanaLaLoca]

Well, I hope nobody bought the iPhone before they reduced the price by $200! And, if you did, you'll only get $100 back, so you'll still be out $100. Just goes to show that the conventional wisdom is right - wait a while after a new product comes out, rather than having to be the first in line to get it.

[mr dragon]

Absolutely. Exactly what I said a while back in the thread. I wouldn't even consider buying it till it has more memory. Which I have a feeling will come soon. They reduced the price of the one with the most memory by a third- which is fairly unprecedented for a new computer device. It probably means they are going to add an 18 Gb version fairly soon. When it gets beyond 40 Gb's I think about buying one! I need at least 30 gigs for my music library.

I think there's another issue as well. They've sold a lot of iPhones, it's been very succesful. But, from what I've read, I think they expected to sell more by now.

Anyone seen the pictures of the new iPod? It's really cool. Has the same layout/ functionality as the phone. Though again, it just doesn't have enough memory to warrant me buying one yet. I'll be waiting on that as well. I'll either get one or the other in about six months to a year- depending on what Apple do.

[JuanaLaLoca]

I also read that the iPhone is lacking some basic phone functionality, but it didn't say what. But apparently, for all that extra stuff, one has to sacrifice something that you would consider should be there for a phone. That could be a factor in slower-than-expected sales.

[mr dragon]

It lacks 3G. And doesn't have a really high end camera- it's not 5 mega pixels as one or two other phones offer. But that's not basic phone functionality, the better/ more expensive phone handsets on the market offer some of those things. And, as of yet, 3G has hardly taken off as a big consumer demand with mobile phones. There's a couple of other minor things, but I don't think they are relevant because what it does do is outweigh every single other thing all the other phones do in terms of performance and how it actually performs those tasks. I'm going to have to disagree with the article you read Juana. On just about every aspect regarding what you would actually like from a mobile phone, the iPhone beats all of them hands down. What's funny to me, is that all these other manufacturers are now attempting to copy aspects of it, but not doing it nearly as well.

[mr dragon]

Well, looks like I was right about the wisdom of waiting for the new upgraded version of the iPhone. It's always best to wait for a while when any new style computer product (including new Operating Systems) comes out before thinking about buying one- unless you have money to burn. I figured it would take Apple about a year to get the iPhone right for the larger consumer market- and low and behold the new iPhone 3G, now with 3G, GPS and also syncs with Microsoft Exchange is going to be launched on the 11th of July. And, most importantly I read today that the cheapest version might be retailed at £100.00. Now is the right time for people to think about buying one!

I wont because I'm tied into my Orange contract until next year- when, hopefully, the iPhone will have a version big enough for my music library at the right price. That's when I'm going to get one

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/?cid=CDM-EU-1895

I wonder how this new hard drive technology that's now come out, which they're using, will effect the rest of the media storage market in terms of price and capacity.

[Persephone]

... And I just read in the newspaper, that the Netherlands will finally get the iPhone on the 11th of July...

Well well. Finally

They will be sold exclusively by T-Mobile (the provider I've got). The offical prices here will be: 199 dollar for the 8gb version (120 euros/101 pounds), the 16gb voor 299 dollar (192 euros/152 pounds). I'll bet there will be cheaper offers as well, but this is how it is presented in the news.

I'm not going to buy one.

I need a new phone though, my contract is almost over, but honestly I don't want to pay for a phone. Well, not yet. Who knows when I see one in real, haha. That I will be sold to it

Did you buy it RU? Since you said you wanted to have one. And if you did, do you like it?

[ruexperienced]

... And I just read in the newspaper, that the Netherlands will finally get the iPhone on the 11th of July...

Well well. Finally

They will be sold exclusively by T-Mobile (the provider I've got). The offical prices here will be: 199 dollar for the 8gb version (120 euros/101 pounds), the 16gb voor 299 dollar (192 euros/152 pounds). I'll bet there will be cheaper offers as well, but this is how it is presented in the news.

I'm not going to buy one.

I need a new phone though, my contract is almost over, but honestly I don't want to pay for a phone. Well, not yet. Who knows when I see one in real, haha. That I will be sold to it

Did you buy it RU? Since you said you wanted to have one. And if you did, do you like it?

Like Ben, I too wanted to wait until the upgraded hardware was released and now that it's here, it's a MUST HAVE for moi I must say.

My current crappy phone is a Motorola Razr which is truly on it's last legs and needs to be replaced anyway, so I will take the plunge and join the ranks of the iPhone users very soon.

I plan to go for the larger 16GB model as I can also use it as an external hard drive for my recording sessions, much as I use my current iPod video 30GB in that regard.

So I'm putting that iPod on eBay for probably about $100, which will help subsidize the cost of the new phone.

Of course I have WAY more than 16GB in my music library, but I just swap new stuff in and out when I need to.

There is a also a rumor that a 32GB model will be released by the end of the year, but I'm content with what the 16GB has to offer for now.

And at the $299 price point, it's one hell of a deal methinks.

S.

PS Katja, you must go to the Apple Retail store and check it out for yourself. I'd put money down that after you see it, you'll be a proud iPod owner too...

[Persephone]

PS Katja, you must go to the Apple Retail store and check it out for yourself. I'd put money down that after you see it, you'll be a proud iPod owner too...

Yes... I was thinking that too when I wrote my previous post. I have to go to the T-mobile shop anyway to upgrade my contract, and since they are the only providers for the Iphone here, I bet they will have a few in their shops (and then probably I'm sold on it). Also because of your argument with the Ipod it is in interesting phone actually. Sorry, but I totally forgot one could store a lot of music on it, and I'll bet there is a good camera on it as well... I can't remember all the details of the phone, but just the fact I can't remember them, reminds me of the fact I should check the phone out actually. It might be a good new goody for Persephone. One thing is for sure, I will check it out actually, on second thought.

(and all the information is already in this thread ). I just need to re-read it I see.

[mr dragon]

I plan to go for the larger 16GB model as I can also use it as an external hard drive for my recording sessions, much as I use my current iPod video 30GB in that regard.

So I'm putting that iPod on eBay for probably about $100, which will help subsidize the cost of the new phone.

Of course I have WAY more than 16GB in my music library, but I just swap new stuff in and out when I need to.

There is a also a rumor that a 32GB model will be released by the end of the year, but I'm content with what the 16GB has to offer for now.

That was the issue for me. I have a 30 gig iPod video as well which I bought cheap (refurb) a while back, just because I thought it was time I had one- but didn't want to spend a lot of money. But that still doesn't fit all my music (let alone podcasts and bits of video!)- I think I'm up to about 40 gigs now just on the music. And of course, you're still going to buy more in the future. I'm kind of hoping they will have an iPhone version bigger than 40 gigs next year- but I think it might take a while for a really large storage capacity version to be released similar to the sizes used in current classic style iPods, that's also not very expensive. Though I understand the reason for this drop in price is down to new hard storage technology that's cheaper to make and smaller- I was wondering how far that will develop over the next year.

[Persephone]

... So I just put myself on the mailing list of T-mobile. They asked me if I was interested in the 3G.

Maybe, because I'm already a client, I might get a discount if I buy one.

Who knows ...

[Caer Ibormeith]

I like it a lot and it's very user friendly. Maybe I'll get one this Fall or for Christmas. Too many bills are coming due this summer for me to justify spending the money when my old cell phone works fine.

[pollywaffle]

My husband has "generously" offered to give me his "old" iPhone so he can update to the 3G. He has no regrets about being an early adopter of the iPhone, just the same as he has had no regrets about buying the first Mac in 1984 when that was much more of a financial undertaking at the time.

[JuanaLaLoca]

I did read the other day that the new iPhone is not going to be as cheap as the lower purchase price might suggest, because the service contract is going up, which will wipe out much of the savings.

[mr dragon]

I had a look at the O2 site (UK provider), and the tariff is the same, and they're also offering a slightly cheaper tariff now on a different package. It might be that some of the more expensive tariffs are that way because the price of the phone is bundled into the tariff, instead of paying outright for the phone when you sign up. Of course it's still cheaper to get a normal mobile deal, but you don't get all the benefits the iPhone has. I've got a really good package with Orange at the moment because I told them I was going to leave (just to see what reaction I would get), so they took thirty per cent of my tariff and trebled my inclusive monthly minutes- and gave me a new phone, the latest Sony Ericsson. That's another reason I'm going to wait.

[ruexperienced]

I did read the other day that the new iPhone is not going to be as cheap as the lower purchase price might suggest, because the service contract is going up, which will wipe out much of the savings.

You're right, Juana.

It's an extra $ 10 per month, which adds up to $120 per year. But you still save $ 80 on the new phone plus are now able to do so much more with it.

However, if you compare it to the pricing on Blackberry phones, not only are the iPhones' cost competitive, there is a much higher surcharge for full blackberry service.

In the end, the iPhone is the way to go...

[JuanaLaLoca]

I did read the other day that the new iPhone is not going to be as cheap as the lower purchase price might suggest, because the service contract is going up, which will wipe out much of the savings.

You're right, Juana.

It's an extra $ 10 per month, which adds up to $120 per year. But you still save $ 80 on the new phone plus are now able to do so much more with it.

However, if you compare it to the pricing on Blackberry phones, not only are the iPhones' cost competitive, there is a much higher surcharge for full blackberry service.

In the end, the iPhone is the way to go...

Hmmm, according to what I read, over a two-year period, the new one will cost $160 more:

Oh, sure, Apple's new 3G iPhone sounds great at $199, but AT&T is going to pile on a two-year contract, a voice plan that starts at $39 a month and a data plan that adds $30 on top of that. And if you want text messaging, it'll cost you another $5 a month. It all adds up to $1,975 over two years, and Gizmodo takes a look at how that compares with other phones.

Turns out the price isn't that bad. The original iPhone costs $160 less, at $1,815 over two years. But three other 3G phones cost more. AT&T's HTC Tilt costs $2,075, Sprint's HTC Mogul costs $1,955 and the XV6800 by Verizon comes in at $2,175.

Comparing the iPhone's 'true' price

But, like you say, other phones cost more, and you're getting more for your money anyway.

[mr dragon]

It's interesting. The UK monthly prices have come down, or stayed the same depending on which tariff you go for. And they're also offering a pay as you go package- with no monthly tariff obviously. However, something I noticed last year, the UK tariff's are more expensive than the US, so maybe that enabled them to do that. Either way, you are getting a much better piece of technology with Apple most of the time, so it's par for the course that you're going to pay more than many of the lesser products, though often less than the more equally sophisticated products.

I'll tell you something though, whilst any Apple product is never going to be the cheapest on the market, if you look at their track record their prices come down quite rapidly as the technology improves over time. I've noticed this a lot in the last few years. Hence why I always say, unless you've got the money to burn or need it straight away, it's always best to wait.

[Persephone]

I just ran into this one:



I'm not sure if the both of you have seen it already, D and RU [I bet you have], but in case you haven't I thought I share it on here. I think the audience is hilarious, like a cure against cancer has just been found and shown to the public (let I shut up now before I can run for cover).

I know I have the same... But then with other things, like the EURO 2008

But, as long is everyone is happy, I'm happy too. That is what counts.

[mr dragon]

Lol, I don't think I'd ever be caught cheering at a product launch, that's taking things a liiiiitle to far. I just like to talk about the technology and keep abreast of it, and hopefully buy new bits as I go along. Most photographers and other people in the visual media industry are very into Apple products, it goes with the territory. It's a very nice piece of kit. Apple are very clever.

[Persephone]

... I almost choked in my dinner when I read this…

The price, of the new iPhone in the Netherlands…..

1 euro!!!!!!

1 EUR (EUR) = 1.5817 USD (USD)
1 EUR (EUR) = 0.7929 GBP (GBP)

!!!

They just e-mailed me (T-mobile) because I can go to the shop for my new phone on which I can decide before August 2008…

Now, I don’t really use 150 min every month, but that is the smallest package.

Also, what is better? 8GB, or 16GB? I reckon you all gonna say 16?

I’m just curious which package I should take.

Fun isn’t it? Those prices! I can’t believe me eyes!

Guess what my new phone will be, most likely, between now and a month?

[mr dragon]

They're doing £35.00 per month deals where you get a free iPhone with Orange here at the moment. I only thought they were going to go with 02. Interesting.

Well, it looked like Apple made a bit of a screw up with the new iPhone/MobileMe launch. Even I had problems because I couldn't remotely access my .Mac email account online from work for about three days. First time I've seen them screw up a launch of a product as badly as that, that's a Microsoft specialty!

[ruexperienced]

Well, it looked like Apple made a bit of a screw up with the new iPhone/MobileMe launch. Even I had problems because I couldn't remotely access my .Mac email account online from work for about three days. First time I've seen them screw up a launch of a product as badly as that, that's a Microsoft specialty!

Agreed. There were problems everywhere.

But to be fair, I think the demand exceeded even Apple's enthusiastic predictions.

I'm going to wait until the madness subsides next week and go out and get one.

[mr dragon]

Smart move, I would have done the same if I were getting one.

I was wondering as to whether Apple kind of pushed it a bit with the new MobileMe service and having it ready to go 'live' on a specific date, I don't think a service like that's been done before- it's never been tried and tested. Either way, I'm slightly irritated because I don't need MobileMe right now, I just want to log in to .Mac and be able to access my personal emails online when I'm at work.....yet even now the new version of .Mac (or MobileMe) is up and now working- I still can't.

Grrr!

[Persephone]

I mentioned yesterday to D that people are accusing T-mobile of a marketing stunt. I don’t know if it true of course, but apparently – people say – most shops had only about 10-15 phones available. If you were lucky you could buy one or reserve one, but because of the amount of people that want to have one the whole register system went down. This in itself created a buzz that got the headlines of the newspaper again (that the demand of iPhones is so huges, people just simple can’t offer them).

The mobile me, and the e-mail story is different of course, but I still like MAC (Yes, I am the next NEW addict in line after I went to the store) I want one.

With the iPhone I personally have to wait a few months.

Have fun getting one Sean.

[mr dragon]

I don't know about T Mobile's marketing strategies, but I think Sean's probably right. I don't think Apple were fully prepared for the response. I think the MobileMe service tied in with the iPhone is a good idea, very clever. Though I noticed .Mac (which has been replaced by MobileMe) was down for a couple of days before the iPhone 3G launch- I also think they didn't 'tweak' quite right before going live because they didn't have a seemless cross over. It seems ok now.

[pollywaffle]

I don't think anyone anticipated sales of 1 million in the first 3 days. My husband has spent the weekend trying out a number of the new Apps. He decided against getting the G3 at this stage so I won't be getting his old iPhone. He didn't feel it warranted paying another $10 per month.

http://www.macworld.com/article/134484/2008/07/appsphones.html

I didn't have any problems with .Mac prior to the 3G release.

[mr dragon]

I didn't have any problems with .Mac prior to the 3G release.

Really? I couldn't get on there at all for two days beforehand. It kept saying they were doing 'site maintenance'. It kind of annoyed me a little as I'd appreciate being warned- supposing you're abroad or away from your computer and need to access your mails online. I wonder if that had something to do with Europe only. It's ok now, though I still haven't figured how to get to my mails online from their new start up page but I've only looked at it briefly.

[pollywaffle]

Interesting. Did you read about others having similar problems?

[Druid 2156]

I WANT ONE!!!

[mr dragon]

Interesting. Did you read about others having similar problems?

Not really Polly, but I haven't looked around because I've been fairly busy. The site had it up in English, French German, Spanish, Italian and Dutch- so I'm guessing it may be a European issue, as you also didn't have it yourself in the US.

I got this from Apple today as an automated email to members- I thought it was quite sweet of them to send this out to people, and nice to add an extra thirty days extension to our accounts. Not sure if Microshaft would have done that . Did you get one as well?

We have recently completed the transition from .Mac to MobileMe. Unfortunately, it was a lot rockier than we had hoped.
Although core services such as Mail, iDisk, Sync, Back to My Mac, and Gallery went relatively smoothly, the new MobileMe web applications had lots of problems initially. Fortunately we have worked through those problems and the web apps are now up and running.
Another snag we have run into is our use of the word "push" in describing everything under the MobileMe umbrella. While all email, contact or calendar changes on the iPhone and the web apps are immediately synced to and from the MobileMe "cloud," changes made on a PC or Mac take up to 15 minutes to sync with the cloud and your other devices. So even though things are indeed instantly pushed to and from your iPhone and the web apps today, we are going to stop using the word "push" until it is near-instant on PCs and Macs, too.
We want to apologize to our loyal customers and express our appreciation for their patience by giving all current subscribers an automatic 30-day extension to their MobileMe subscription free of charge. Your extension will be reflected in your account settings within the next few weeks.
We hope you enjoy your new suite of web applications at me.com, in addition to keeping your iPhone and iPod touch wirelessly in sync with these new web applications and your Mac or PC.
Thank you,
The MobileMe Team

[Persephone]

Whaha! It seems we and the Germans are lucky. We seem to have the fasted iPhone connection in the world

Users in Germany and the Netherlands reported the fastest average 3G download speeds -- about 2,000 Kbps.

Source and whole article:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/08/g ... one-3.html



Sean, did you already get one? And what is your expierence with the internet connection?

I saw it in a store in A'dam and I tried it a few weeks ago. I thought the connection was still pretty slow to be honest.

[Persephone]

I'm happy to announce: I am finally getting my iPhone

Spoiler:

It is not that big news as Natasha gave us, but I've got to be happy with the 'little' things in life

I could have had one in June/July 2008, but I waited and waited (and waited) until my phone that I am having right now is showing some problems and I am getting a VERY GOOD DEAL NOW:

A FREE phone, (16 GB); FREE internet; 300 minutes to call for just 28.50 euro's a month!!!!! , and that's it!

It is even cheaper then the one I have right now!

Moi = excited

5-10 days before it will be delivered at my door...

[Persephone]

I'VE GOT IT!!! (Now I 'only' have to figger out how it works )

Ben, Help me!



Ok, chapter one...

[ukus]

I'VE GOT IT!!! (Now I 'only' have to figger out how it works )

Ben, Help me!



Ok, chapter one...

Good luck P ....... Let us know how you like it (know you will get some help)

[Persephone]

I definitely LOVE the design, but unfortunately I can't use it yet. Apparently my sim-card is a bit damaged or something. My present phone (and all other phones in the world) is accepting the card, but not my iPhone. I called them yesterday with the ‘problems’ I was experiencing and they told me most likely the card is a little bit damaged and they will send me a new one within 3 working days. More patience for me... 'cause I really like the phone! It feels really nice to look at and hold! I’ve got the latest 3G version (16BG).

One thing I thought was weird that they don’t send a little manual with it. They do about all the functions on it, but not how and where to install the sim-card for instance. I had to google it and then I found the ‘Apple paperclip’ to do it. For anyone who might get one in the future: this is how you install the sim-card.



Well, now you know

I also couldn't resist myself going into the iCenter when I was in Haarlem the other day (I am starting to look like someone on here!) I was looking at all the extra's for the iPhone and a laptop I wanted. Then I saw an even better one... It is soo true, once you start liking the products of Apple, there is hardly a way out!

A-new-Apple-lover.

[ruexperienced]

I definitely LOVE the design, but unfortunately I can't use it yet. Apparently my sim-card is a bit damaged or something. My present phone (and all other phones in the world) is accepting the card, but not my iPhone. I called them yesterday with the ‘problems’ I was experiencing and they told me most likely the card is a little bit damaged and they will send me a new one within 3 working days. More patience for me... 'cause I really like the phone! It feels really nice to look at and hold! I’ve got the latest 3G version (16BG).

One thing I thought was weird that they don’t send a little manual with it. They do about all the functions on it, but not how and where to install the sim-card for instance. I had to google it and then I found the ‘Apple paperclip’ to do it. For anyone who might get one in the future: this is how you install the sim-card.



Well, now you know

I also couldn't resist myself going into the iCenter when I was in Haarlem the other day (I am starting to look like someone on here!) I was looking at all the extra's for the iPhone and a laptop I wanted. Then I saw an even better one... It is soo true, once you start liking the products of Apple, there is hardly a way out!

A-new-Apple-lover.

Heh. Let me guess. You started messing about with the smaller MacBook, loved the design and glossy display, saw the larger 15 " MacBook Pro, with the same look and feel, then saw the monster 17" MacBook Pro with the revolutionary 8 hour Battery and you just stood there shaking your head.



I've been there too !

As for the iPhone, I honestly can't even remember now what it was like before I had one. It is an INDISPENSIBLE weapon in my business arsenal, allowing me to keep in touch with my office and clients like never before.

Having an internet connection (3G) with the biggest display on a mobile phone allows me to look up some tech things when the internet is down at a clients and Im trying to sort that for them, sending emails back in forth as well.

The GPS Google maps get me anywhere I want just by typing in an address, showing me the progress and distances of my trip as I go.

The innovative texting that learns words as you go makes it faster than any Crack-Berry out there (HATE those beastly things-really I do)

And at $ 299 US for the most expensive model, why buy a crap Motorola or Sprint wannabe iPhone when you can have the real deal for about the same price ?

It's a no brainer !

Congratulations, P. on your new iPhone. You will love it.

S.

[Persephone]

Heh. Let me guess. You started messing about with the smaller MacBook, loved the design and glossy display, saw the larger 15 " MacBook Pro, with the same look and feel, then saw the monster 17" MacBook Pro with the revolutionary 8 hour Battery and you just stood there shaking your head.



I've been there too !

That is EXACTLY the story hahaha. Are Mac products THAT predictable, or am I?

As for the iPhone, I honestly can't even remember now what it was like before I had one. It is an INDISPENSIBLE weapon in my business arsenal, allowing me to keep in touch with my office and clients like never before.

Having an internet connection (3G) with the biggest display on a mobile phone allows me to look up some tech things when the internet is down at a clients and Im trying to sort that for them, sending emails back in forth as well.

The GPS Google maps get me anywhere I want just by typing in an address, showing me the progress and distances of my trip as I go.

The innovative texting that learns words as you go makes it faster than any Crack-Berry out there (HATE those beastly things-really I do)

And at $ 299 US for the most expensive model, why buy a crap Motorola or Sprint wannabe iPhone when you can have the real deal for about the same price ?

It's a no brainer !

Congratulations, P. on your new iPhone. You will love it.

S.

Sean, I honestly love it! And I haven’t even tried 50% on it.

There is a problem with my current laptop Acer again. I can’t get the latest version of iTunes on it anymore, I can’t re-install it anymore (because some kind of application is missing: .msi), so the Acer ‘costumer service – the word in itself is laughable – adviced me to reboost the whole laptop and install every program newly... Therefore I can’t connect with my iPhone on my own computer yet, most unfortunately. But I can wait! I am already so happy with the stuff that is working! Just the phone itself, the internet, the routeplanner, the weather, etc. etc. I just can’t put music/pictures etc. on it. It is lovely. And I don’t regret the white/black I’ve chosen. It suits me so to speak.

I am not the only one who is happy with my iPhone. I took it to the south this weekend, and made some people fall in love with the iPhone. Even people who are normally not into phone’s as well. They were over me to check their auctions on Ebay, their e-mail etc. etc. and one person is not even a mobile person normally which I thought was very interesting! He said: I want one of those as well! :) On top of that I made my brother fall in love with iTunes (it is a start), I think my father is going to be next and his wife wanted to know the price/deal I had and got very interested in it. She already knew a lot about the iPhone as well.

Anyway, Mac-heaven has showed its light to me and I would like a Mac Pro (15 inch is already good!~) descending into my life. Therefore if people want to give and support me, that is possible by donating to PRT, under the name: 'Yes, lets give a Mac to Persephone. I would very much appreciate it, and the people around me as well cause it would give a lot of joy!

I hope this is not a problem to you...

[Druid 2156]

I'm with you as far as getting a Mac, P. I now have Joshua saying "I need a Mac" in his frustration with our current 'puter. Now all we need is the cash to get one...

[Persephone]

I'm with you as far as getting a Mac, P. I now have Joshua saying "I need a Mac" in his frustration with our current 'puter. Now all we need is the cash to get one...

How are you doing with your work Druid? Do you like it and don't regret it?

I hope money and hapiness will flow your way soon!

[Persephone]

Ps. RU, One thing I miss on the phone is a possibility to move the cursor left or right when I made an error in writing. Have you figgered out a quick way to do it?

Now I just aim my finger as close to the error and then delete the part where I am writing, while I wish I could just move the cursor and just delete one or two letters.

I was wondering if you had a idea, or is it just not possible?

Also with my previous phone I could highlight a sentence and then delete it or copy-paste it, but I see the iPhone doesn't give me the option to do this unfortunately.

Mr. Apple, maybe you could take these wishes on board for the next phone if you are reading with us!
I would very much like it!

[Druid 2156]

I'm with you as far as getting a Mac, P. I now have Joshua saying "I need a Mac" in his frustration with our current 'puter. Now all we need is the cash to get one...

How are you doing with your work Druid? Do you like it and don't regret it?

I hope money and hapiness will flow your way soon!

work is going alright, P. It's more physical and mental than I would have expected, but I have someone helping me get used to all the new responsibilities. He's a godsend!

[Persephone]

work is going alright, P. It's more physical and mental than I would have expected, but I have someone helping me get used to all the new responsibilities. He's a godsend!

I'm so glad for you, Duid! I'm glad you like it and seem to enjoy it.
(and perhaps even more important: learn from it AND earn money with it!)

I see you don't regret it! Which is good!

[Persephone]

Ps. RU, One thing I miss on the phone is a possibility to move the cursor left or right when I made an error in writing. Have you figgered out a quick way to do it?

Now I just aim my finger as close to the error and then delete the part where I am writing, while I wish I could just move the cursor and just delete one or two letters.

I was wondering if you had a idea, or is it just not possible?

Also with my previous phone I could highlight a sentence and then delete it or copy-paste it, but I see the iPhone doesn't give me the option to do this unfortunately.

Mr. Apple, maybe you could take these wishes on board for the next phone if you are reading with us!
I would very much like it!

S.O.L.V.E.D. a few days ago. Maybe I should have read the instructions earlier

I also found out another few fantastic things on it. Going to play a game on it now for instance. It is a lovely little computer