When is it OK for a guy to cry

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When is it OK for a guy to cry

Postby ukus on Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:05 pm

Quite a lot on TV at the mo about the latest "Bachelor' and his crying after the reality show star let go of the runner up and proposed to his pick .... which 6 weeks later he dumped in order to pick up with his dumpee. It seems Jason cried a lot through this 13th season. I missed a lot of it (thank goodness) as I only tuned in if there was nowt else to watch. Frankly if somebody cries, I believe it more if I see some actual tears :smt011 Um methinks this was a whole set up to make 'good television' cough.. but it does leave us with the question ... what do we think about guys shedding the waterworks?

In my 30+ years of being with Terry I have seldom seen him actually cry. He did cry when his mom and brother died ... he wept buckets when our doggie Sam died and I have seen him choke up many a time.... for instance, some story where there has been bravity ... such as brave soldiers being killed, a kid overcoming the odds , the Cowboys winning the Superbowl.
He hates choking up and usually takes off for the loo so I can't see him. I let it go cos I know it's not summut he wants me to see ..... but I'm thankful he has such a caring heart to provoke such an intense emotion. Do I think it a sign of weakness ... hell no but I respect that in his generation it it not the done thing. Would I like a fella that weeps at the drop of a hat ... probably not. I like being the soppy one in our family. :smt001
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Re: When is it OK for a guy to cry

Postby Mr Retro on Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:30 pm

I grew up in a culture and environment where it was/is considered unmanly or a sign of weakness to cry. Unfortunately, I've bought into that because I can't even remember the last time I cried for a person or a personal situation. I do remember really having to fight back the tears at the end of the movie, "The Color Purple." It was a dark movie theater so I got away from it. But, when was that? The early 80's?

I really wish it was different. God gave each of us our emotions for a reason as both an outlet and as a means of expression. I bet you anything that is why men die on average several years before women because they are expected to stifle their emotions and feelings.
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Re: When is it OK for a guy to cry

Postby LollyB on Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:01 pm

When he stubs his toe or loses his favorite power tool? When he wrecks a car he's spent years restoring? Nah, I like a guy who's a bit sentimental. A bit. I wouldn't want him to cry at the drop of a hat, but when he meets his child for the first time? When he attends a wedding or grandma's birthday party? When he loses a parent? Of course I want him to show real emotion. Most guys stop at tearing up, though.
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Re: When is it OK for a guy to cry

Postby wakeyboy on Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:30 pm

I dont like it when women cry at the drop of a hat.

I get very unsympathetic with some people. If you cry at anything then I'm not wasting my time comforting you or taking any interest in you, since there arent enough minutes in the day!

If you're crying over appropriately upsetting or touching moments (even in films) then I dont have a problem with that. Thats men and women.


I cry if someone close dies.

I sometimes cry at sad/happy things in films.

I sometimes feel a choke in my throat if I'm talking about/hearing about something courageous but not very often.

My throat was killing me while watching that drama about suicide in Switzerland starring Julie Walters! :smt022
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Re: When is it OK for a guy to cry

Postby Caer Ibormeith on Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:13 am

Mr Retro wrote:I really wish it was different. God gave each of us our emotions for a reason as both an outlet and as a means of expression. I bet you anything that is why men die on average several years before women because they are expected to stifle their emotions and feelings.


Expressing healthy emotions is cathartic, Tom. I agree that men would be healthier if they stopped bottling their feelings up so much. Crying can relieve stress, which is a huge factor in heart disease and stroke. I don't have a problem with men crying as long as it's real and not made up for TV, or to prove their "sensitivity."

I understand Terry's reluctance to cry in front of you and others, though, Karen. Some folks need to grieve privately, whether they think they need to be strong for those they love or just need to be alone with their thoughts and emotions for awhile. We're all different in how we express things.
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Re: When is it OK for a guy to cry

Postby SilverMiniCooperS on Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:38 am

Klaus was a lot like Terry - I swear those two were somehow related!!

Today when I woke and realized what the date was I got a little teary. It was one year ago today when we got the news that Klaus had brain tumours and had not suffered from a stroke as we thought. :smt005

As for that bachelor - I didn't watch the whole series either - just the last two episodes as there was nowt else on. I think it was all a put-on quite frankly. I just wish that Molly had told him "Sorry mate, but you snooze, you lose!!

I think Tom summed it up pretty well. And Wakey has a good point - I can't stand women (or men for that matter) who cry for every little thing. It's gets old real fast!
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Re: When is it OK for a guy to cry

Postby mr dragon on Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:20 pm

Mr Retro wrote:
I bet you anything that is why men die on average several years before women because they are expected to stifle their emotions and feelings.


Without wanting to sound too much like 90's GQ new/ sensitive metrosexual man- I think you're probably right Tom. Men do have a problem with it, and it's probably not always that healthy for them to repress it as often as they do. I'm kind of in two places over the whole issue. One one level I agree with the notion that sometimes it's just kind of irritating when people get over emotional for no reason and just cry- as if it's something very profound when sometimes it isn't. That irritates me as well. But on the other hand I have to say I'm pretty emotional as a person, and I do cry at certain things. Certain pieces of music can easily move me to tears, and I have the same with certain films. I just try to hide it if I'm in public. Though I'm not afraid to openly cry in front of a female, or close friends, in private. That doesn't really bother me at all and never has. But I know my father's generation can also even have a problem with that. But the irony is- I still hate the idea of it in public with myself, and I almost never do it in front of my male friends- unless it's over something very significant. It's kind of stupid because I can quite easily get moved to tears- so why should you be bothered about it, or the stigma? I dunno. I think it's just the way it is, even if it's stupid.

Incidentely... just to show how men can be screwed up about the the concept- particularly my father's generation. I've never really seen my Dad cry, ever. Not once- apart from one time. Not when my gran died, or his father died, or even when he got cancer- and there was a strong possibility he might die, or when my Mum got cancer years later- and she might die... or over anything else at all! The only time I have ever seen him cry, and loose control a bit, was when our cat (that we'd had for years when I was growing up) died! He couldn't handle it somewhere. It's slightly ridiculous. I had to take the afternoon off work to help him take the cat to the vet to have it put down- the poor thing was very sick at the time. He just lost it somewhere and didn't know what to do. He was so chocked up he didn't really know where to park the car when we got to the vet, or when we got home. The thing that struck me, as a piece of irony, was that he phoned me at work that day and said he'd decided to do it and needed my help- but I also wasn't allowed to tell my Mum- in case she got upset! The irony, of course, was that- when my Mum did find out after she got home from work- she was ok with it and not that upset. She thought it was the sensible thing to do. The reason why? Like myself and my brother, she'd already gotten a little upset already, gone through the emotional process of it over time, and knew it had to happen. Whereas my Dad couldn't handle it somewhere....but he also thought he was trying to protect everyone- mainly my Mum- at the same time! The truth is, he was just projecting his own inability to deal with it onto everyone else- and this is a guy whose spent his entire life climbing up erupting volcanoes in the middle of nowhere, on some Godforsaken part of the planet, for a living...! I love my Dad, but Man- that's a little messed up. As sweet as it may sound. You also kind of think at the same time- would he be as openly upset if one of us died? Of course he would inside- but he'd also bottle it up and never show it. However, he could do that with the bloody cat...! That's messed up! But there you go- that's that generation of men... Us male Gen X'rs are still messed up with that kind of thing when it comes to showing our emotions, but perhaps a little less so than the previous generation....Maybe it's just a progression...
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